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roof tiles for the cap

roof tiles for the cap by bartswindow
roof tiles for the cap, a photo by bartswindow on Flickr.

I just finished overseeing and facilitating the construction on this wall. Rhiwena and Tygel did the lions share of the physical work on this project.
We used a slightly different approach than in the past with bales on edge and stuck on rebar spikes concreted into the footer when it was being formed up.
This minimized materials needed and kept the hours down around 150-200 total. The project was completed in 3 weeks about 4 days a week for 5-6 hours for 2 people plus about 35-40 hours additional labor from a third person taking care of logistics and materials.

What does a Straw Bale or Cob bench or wall cost?

What does it cost to build a straw bale or cob bench or wall?

That depends on quite a few things:

  • The Shape and Size
  • What Materials will you use?
  • What do you have on hand?
  • What materials will you have delivered?
  • Is your labor force paid or volunteer?
  • What type of finish do you want?
  • Do you have the time, skills, and energy to oversee and facilitate the project?
  • Will you hire someone to run your workshops, and oversee, or complete, the project?

These are a few elements involved in creating an earthen form:

Site selection and preparation
At the very least you want level solid, compacted ground, that is not lower then the surrounding area. Your most likely going to want to dig at least a three inch trench the shape of the foot print of the structure, in which to form your footer. Choose an area that makes sense with the appropriate orientation relative to the sun, wind, traffic flow, etc. Move the straw bales around and sit on them visualize the end shape and how it will fit in to your space. What features can you build in to it? Can it be more then one thing, serve more then one purpose?
Can a wall be a bench, or a bench a wall for a garden, Can a wall be a bench and a water tank?
Who will use the space? how? how many?
Also consider access to materials , water, work area etc. Where will you mix? pile materials?.How will you get the materials to the site?

Your Footer
Footers can very from a rubble filled trench and pavers, to an urbanite¬†(chunks of busted up concrete) filled trench, formed up with flashing, and infilled with quickcrete, or even a poured footer, or mortared stone, brick, or block. What ever footer material you choose, it has to be thick enough to support the weight of the structure, and dug in well enough to prevent under cutting, as well as high enough above grade to keep moisture from wicking up from the ground. The bottom of the cob, bales and plaster should be a minimum of 3″ from grade and as much as a few feet in snow country.

Straw Bales or Cob Pile
The method you choose, either straw bale with earthen plasters, or a cob pile, will effect both the materials cost, and the labor requirements. A straw bale core is quicker in the beginning stages, requires more straw bales, less adobe mix, and a thinner footer. Cob pile requires more adobe mix, less straw, and a more substantial footer, but it is more flexible as far as shapes.

Finish coats
Either method requires a plaster coat and some kind of weather resistant coating, even in dry areas, to slow deterioration.  This can be done with linseed oil, lime plasters, and a number of other earth based coatings.

Depending on your climate, you may need to protect your bench with a roof. Horizontal surfaces are vulnerable to heavy rains and snow. Most of the work I am currently doing is in the Tucson Arizona area, also known as the upper Sonoran Desert where we get an average of 12″ of rain a year, and seldom more than an inch in a day. I do tough outer coats, topped off with a linseed oil earthen plaster that will be maintained on a yearly basis. I feel this will suffice here, and offers a good balance between upfront costs and ongoing maintenance.
Walls can be capped with stone, bricks, concrete, tiles, old pieces of roofing or planks of wood. You name it as long as there is adequate overhang to protect the wall. Benches need more cover in some areas with a ramada or gazebo roof covering the whole bench with a few inches of over hang at least.

So say you want a curved bench with a back about 4 feet tall and a full bales width to sit on. You want it to be able to sit 8-10 people comfortably facing a center piece such as a podium court yard or fire pit.

This bench is straw bales covered with cob done mostly by hand, no mixer, with only one day of workshop, to put on the rough cob coat. I put nearly 200 hours in to this project and bought a mixer near the end to take some of the work out of mixing alone.

This bench has a 6″ footer made of on site gravel and hardware cloth staked in with rebar. All the adobe mix was harvested on site The finish coat has linseed oil in it and the cap bricks are mortared in to place.

The materials were about $300.00 or so, the labor would have cost around $2000-$3000 depending. It could have been completed in 3 weekend work shops with set up and finish work done in between. The cost of the project if done workshop style would be around $1000.00-$1500.00, depending on the cost of the facilitator and how much paid work was needed. Most of the work can be done during the workshops, which should minimize labor costs.

If it was a wall you wanted say 30 feet long, and just under 6 feet tall, you want it curvilinear for looks and stability, with minimal horizontal area on the top.

This wall was built by Rhiwena and myself out of cob pile using a mixer and some on site materials harvested from basins created to direct the water away from the wall, and some adobe mix brought in.

The footer was urbanite mortared and filled with quickcrete. 8″-10″ thick and set in a trench. The finish coat was linseed oil and earthen plaster.

The materials were about $500.00 and we put about 300 man hours in to it. Labor would have been $3000 – $4500.00 depending. If this project were done workshop style over 3 or 4 weekends it could be done for about $1500 – $2000.00

If what you wanted was a couple of benches with seating area for up to 12 and a back about 3 feet tall.

These benches are straw bales covered in cob and earthen plaster. mostly done by hand work shop style with about a week of paid work for the footers and set up and 2 weekends of work shops. The cost of materials was about $400.00 The workshops and paid labor cost about $800.00 – $1000.00

The footer is urbanite infilled with quickcrete and formed up with 6″ flashing set in a 3 inch trench. The final coat will be linseed oil and earthen plaster.

These are just three examples of projects I have helped with. You don’t have to start this big, simple one or 2 bale benches can be made in a day for $50.00 or less. Your figures will depend on local costs of materials and labor source.
For me the least expensive and generally most fun way to do these types of projects is workshop style. Find a local earth builder or experienced work shop facilitator and gather your friends and neighbors. Make it a community building, and learning experience, have fun with it.

I’ll be expanding on these design examples in future posts with drawings, materials lists, and detailed instructions.

A Wonderful Community Builder

This project was such an incredible community builder. Marcus, Colleen, and Lilly have a lot of friends that participated and made a few new ones from people going by. It was a fairly diverse group, with a few teachers people from local not for profits, a couple of retirees and about half a dozen children almost all of whom got to play in the mud. Over the four days I would guess nearly 20 different people showed up.
The work is often close and the chit chat goes on through out the day while mixing or spreading on the mud.
Colleen made excellent lunches, and a few folks brought stuff. People drifted in and out, some coming 3 of the four days.
I hope to do many more of these in the future.
The materials were around $500.00 the whole project took about 3 weeks. I would be interested in facilitating projects like this in nearly any location.
Meeting over the mud

Frank does detail work

Frank does detail work by bartswindow
Frank does detail work, a photo by bartswindow on Flickr.

Frank a photographer and straw bale builder does some detail work on the smaller bench
The Second day of workshop went smoothly like the first.
This week we will do test coats to get the sand clay mix right, we are getting a lot of surface cracking. It’s hot and dry and windy which makes it a challenge to slow the drying down enough.
We had a good crew all day and a shift change around lunch like the first day.
Next weekend promises to be as much fun as this weekend come by any time after 9:00 e mail for directions etc

The Wall by the numbers

Well in looking back at the wall, it ended up taking about as long as I originally estimated on my first guess. I talked myself in to thinking we could do it faster, but it became obvious early on that 2 of us couldn’t lay up the foot a day I had hoped for, we need to add at least one more person to make this efficient. The day we had 3 of us out there, with a big pile of sifted materials, we got the foot lift done in one day.

We ended up putting about:
300 man hours into this project or about 10 man hours per linear foot for a cob pile 6 feet tall, and 2 feet wide, 14 cubic yards in total area, approximately 1/3 to one half straw by volume,
with 2 pressed finish coats and a linseed oil smear.

The materials ended up being a little lower than I expected. Next time I’ll have all the adobe mix delivered, or have all the earth works done and materials sifted, prior to starting the wall.¬† The total materials ended up costing about $500.00 or $6.00 per linear foot.

  • Quick Crete for Footer 35 – 60 lb sacks $104.00
  • Straw $55.00 5-6 bales would do it, we ended up with that many left over from 12 bales we had delivered and a lot of it in the basins and just lying around.
  • Adobe mix, we ended up getting over half of what we used from Pioneer landscaping 8 tons delivered for $260.00, Rhiwena dug the other half in catchment basins up slope from the wall
  • One gallon of linseed oil for final smear coat

What I would do different:

I would have at least 3 people on this size of a job. It would make the whole flow smoother.

I’d have all of the materials sifted and ready whether dug on site, prior to the wall starting, or brought in, the cost of labor to harvest on site is much higher than the cost to have it brought in. I found that what Pioneer calls top soil I would call adobe mix that needs a little sand. It was $25.00 a ton with a $60.00 delivery charge.

I would use some kind of flexible form for the footer. Flashing cut in to 6 ” strips and rebar stakes might work.

We will see how this weathers the monsoons. I intend to go out and put one more smear coat on after letting it set up for about a month. I sloped the top a lot and gave it a short drip edge. I expect to see some deterioration during monsoons but nothing that can’t be kept up with.

This job was fun, difficult at times, but fun. We were all happy with the end result.